Agile Atelier

Episode 12: The right terminologies for Agile with Mike Burrows

Welcome to another episode on the Agile Atelier podcast. Today, I’ll be speaking to Mike Burrows on using the right terminologies for Agile. Mike is the author of Kanban from the Inside, Agendashift: outcome-oriented change and continuous transformations, as well as Right to Left: the digital leader’s guide to Lean and Agile. Mike is recognised for his pioneering work in Lean, Agile, and Kanban and for his advocacy for participatory and outcome-oriented approaches to change, transformation, and strategy. Prior to his consulting career, Mike was global development manager and Executive Director at a top tier investment bank, and CTO for an energy risk management startup.

In this episode, we talk about a lot of the companies that are successfully Agile, don’t call it Agile or SAFe or some other well-known framework – they tailor-make different practices for their own situation. The topics Mike and I discuss in this episode are wide-ranging from dialogical organizational development, and scaling, to the need for things like strategy in Agile organizations rather than relying on Agility to take care of complete organizational development on its own. Mike tells us about some techniques, such as 15-minute FOTO, that teams can use to become more outcome oriented and thinking in a “right to left” manner.

You can connect with Mike on Twitter @asplake and learn more about him at here. You can sign up for events that Mike will be speaking at using the following link: and learn more about his books here:

Episode 12: The right terminologies for Agile with Mike Burrows

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Plowing through backlogs of requirements [without the end outcomes in mind] is a way to deliver mediocre systems.


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